Best vape mods and box mods 2017

Which Box MOD Is The Best? We Take A Look At Our Top Picks For 2019

The past year has seen the vaping industry boom with new advances in e cig technology and the vape mod is undoubtedly one category that has been at the forefront of this movement.

This is fantastic news for us, the vaper but makes things very confusing when it comes to making purchasing difficult. If you have found this page then you are no doubt looking for the best box mod available which is what we are going to show you today.

Now before you jump in and buy a box mod (or vape mod depending on what you call them) you need to ask yourself a few questions as not all box mods will suit all vapers.

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If you just want to see the recommended box mods then keep on reading.

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The box mods in the list below are a mix of external battery mods and integrated devices, the latter meaning that the batteries are in built and not replaceable. If we have missed out your favourite vape mod leave a comment below and let us know what it is!

Top Choice Beginner Vape Mods

Jacvapour Series S22 – Editors Choice For New/Intermediate Vapers

JAC Vapour series S22 vape modThe Series S22 by Jacvapour is kind of in between a vape pen and box mod but don’t let that put you off. This is a fantastic device for all levels of vaper. However, if you are a newer vaper this is a great mod that is as easy as it gets.

It doesn’t have the features you may find in other devices but that’s kind of the point. You fill the tank, pop it on the battery and away you go. The supplied S22 tank is a great performer as well.

It offers a mouth to lung vape and a good sub ohm coil for direct to lung vaping. The mod automatically detects what coil you have installed and delivers the power accordingly, no variable wattage settings to mess about with here.

The mod is lightweight in the hand while still retaining a top quality build. Add to this a 2600mAh integrated battery and it also offers plenty of uninterrupted vaping. This does come as a kit so may not be suitable for those wanting to use their own tank.

Read our full Jacvapour Series S22 review here


  • 2600mAh Integrated Battery
  • Both mouth to lung and direct to lung coils
  • Simple to setup and use
  • Small and compact design
  • Perfect starting point for vapers
  • JAC Vapour customer service is second to none.

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Aspire Zelos – 50W – Recommended For New/Intermediate Vapers

aspire zelos vape kitThe Zelos is one of the latest vape mods from Aspire, a company that have been on the e cig scene since 2013.

This MOD is sold in kit form with the excellent Nautilus 2 tank. This is a mouth to lung tank that is a great starting point for new vapers or experienced vapers who vape MTL style.

The Zelos mod actually looks far better in the hand and has superb build quality. The size is just right, fitting into the palm perfectly making it a great all round, out and about device.

I use this with both sub ohm tanks and the nautilus 2 on a regular basis and the very respectable 2500 mAh battery gives a good amount of vaping time.

Overall an excellent mod suitable for all levels of vaper and more importantly a great starting point for vapers buying their first box mod.

Read our full Aspire Zelos Kit review here.


  • 1W-50W
  • Excellent 2500 mAh integrated battery
  • Solid mod that feels great in the hand
  • Pass Through – Can vape whilst charging
  • Dimensions: 78 X 40 X 23mm
  • Excellent choice for first time box mod users
  • Auto rotating screen
  • Features temp control and advanced settings such as Bypass mode

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Innokin EZ Watt – 35W – Recommended For New Vapers

Innokin ez.watt color optionsThe Innokin EZ Watt is as easy as it comes and a solid choice when it comes to entry level box mods.

This MOD is suitable for all level of vapers and for those that want that solid build that Innokin so very often deliver. It doesn’t have that big wattage that the latest mods often offer but if you are just looking for a simple to use mod that can operate tanks upto 35W then this should be looked at.

It comes as a kit so you can be up and running straight away. It’s not a kit for sub ohm vapers, this comes with the excellent T20S tank which is for mouth to lung vapers (closer to the draw on a cigarette).

There are no fiddly menus, just 3 vaping modes, 13-14W – 16-18W and 30-35W. These can be changed to suit the tank and coil you choose to use. All very simple to use hence the name EZ.

Read our full Innokin EZ Watt review here.


  • 3 Power modes upto 35W
  • Can fire coils down to 0.2ohm
  • Kit comes with 2 X coil (0.8Ohm and 1.5Ohm)
  • 1500 mAh integrated battery
  • Superb build quality and solid in the hand
  • Perfect for first time box mod users
  • Compact and portable

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Top Choice 70-100W Box Mods

SMOK MAG Grip – 100W – 18650/20700/21700 Batteries – Editors Choice For Comfort, Quality & Performance

mag grip coloursSMOK are one of the most prolific brands when it comes to product releases and while not all hit the spot the SMOK MAG Grip is very impressive.

It may sound strange but this is one of the most comfortable mods we have had in our hands. Add to this the ‘clip’ style battery loading bay (that is quite addictive I may add) and this is one fun mod to use. The build quality is also up there with some of the more expensive mods on the market.

All the main features you would expect are there plus we have the added bonus of 18650/20700/21700 battery compatibility with the 18650 firing upto 85W and the rest 100W.

The mod is mostly only available with the SMOK TFV8 Baby V2 tank but the good news is it performs a treat in the flavour and cloud department. So if you already have a goto tank this could act as a quality backup.

Not much more we can say about the Mag Grip kit, it surprised us how much we enjoyed using it day to day.

Read our full SMOK Mag Grip review here.


  • Upto 100W
  • Resistance from 0.1 Ohm (Wattage mode) and 0.05 (TC Mode)
  • Compatible with 18650/20700/21700 batteries
  • Solid, quality build that is a real pleasure to hold and use

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Jacvapour Series B DNA75 MOD

jacvapour- DNA-75 sandstorm viewThe Series B DNA75 mod from Jacvapour has been an excellent addition to the box mod world.

I absolutely love this thing. It’s a classy looking device, especially the Sandstorm edition.

It’s not all about looks though – as my mother used to tell me – the DNA75 has all the functions you would expect and is powered by a removable 18650 battery. Add to that the quality of the build and we have a little star of a vape mod.

Oh… Did I mention the size, as you can see from the image above the Jacvapour Series B nestles nicely into the palm of the hand and my hands aren’t the biggest.

One of the best vape mods to date and a worthy entry into our top vape mod list.

Read the Full Jacvapour Series B DNA75 review here.


  • Dimensions – 88mm x 22mm x 35mm
  • 75W
  • Evolv DNA Chip
  • Removable 18650 battery
  • Temperature Control
  • Great for first time box mod buyers
  • Superb build quality
  • Small and portable.
  • 12 Month warranty

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Joyetech Espion Solo – 80W

espion solo kit colours
The little brother of the Espion dual battery mod. The Espion solo is a top notch replaceable battery mod capable of housing three battery types, the 18650, the 20700 and the 21700.

The mod has all the features a vaper would want but it’s also an easy device to get to grips with for those newer to the vape mod scene.

It’s a beauty of a device as well with it’s solid build and oversized easy to read screen. There isn’t a whole lot not to like about this mod.

Did I mention this still fits perfectly in the palm of the hand? Yep, despite it being packed on the inside with features it still retains a compact and portable form factor!


  • 80W
  • Can fire coils down to 0.1ohms
  • Replaceable battery – Can be used with 18650/20700/21700 types
  • Beautiful design
  • Easy to use
  • Compact – fits in the palm of the hand
  • Superb quality build

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Wismec CB-80 Mod – 80W

best vape mod wismec cb80Wismec are known for producing quality devices and the Wismec CB-80 doesn’t buck the trend. The build quality isn’t the only thing we like about this vape mod.

You can also take advantage of 80W power output, temperature control, and powered by a replaceable 18650 battery.

What we like about the CB-80 mod is its ease of use, large and clear OLED screen and compact form factor. This is a device that would be suited to all levels of vaper.


  • Dimensions: 80.4 X 36.4 X 22.6mm
  • 80W
  • Advanced options available (Temp Control / TCR Mode)
  • Resistance: Can fire coils from 0.05Ohm
  • Powered by replaceable 18650 battery (Not included)
  • Large OLED screen
  • Compact design with excellent build quality

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Geekvape Aegis – 100W – Water/Shock Resistance

Geekvape Aegis 100Calling all vapers who like to chuck clouds in the shower, the Aegis mod is for you.

The Geekvape Aegis vape mod is all about withstanding the elements. Unlike a lot of mods that claimed to be able to resists shocks and water the Aegis actually delivers.

We have sat this in water, dropped it from head height a number of times and finally froze it in a container full of water for a full 3 days. It survived all. Impressive to say the least.

Design wise, it’s a beautiful looking device. Under the hood it has everything even the most advanced vape needs to get the most out of their vape.

The Aegis has full temp control compatibility and is powered by Single 18650 or 26650 Battery.

We really like this mod, it’s solid device that’s a pleasure to use and despite it’s chunky appearance it fits a treat in the palm of your hand. If you are on the wrong end of the clumsy scale this could be the mod for you.

Read Our Full Geekvape Aegis Review Here


  • Wattage: Max 100W
  • Dimensions: 37.8 x 46.8 x 88mm
  • IP67 certification (Water/dust proof) and military standard 810G-516.6 shock proof certification
  • Powered by single 18650 or 26650 battery
  • Temp Control
  • Great design and build quality
  • Simple to use even for newer vapers

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Top Choice 110W+ Box Mods

Innokin CoolFire Ultra TC150 – 150W – Integrated Battery

coolfire ultra 150 wattsThe CoolFire mods are, for us, one of the work horses of the vape mod world. They may not look as fancy and colourful as some of the mods we see released on a daily basis but they do what they are supposed to do.

The CoolFire Ultra TC150 mod is the latest in the series and while it keeps the same form factor of the others under the hood it features an impressive 4000mAh battery.

The TC150 will also cope with pretty much any tanks or dripper you can throw at it, firing coils from 0.1Ohm.

The mod is very solid in the hand with a nice weight without being ridiculously big. The included Aethon chip makes it a pleasure to use. Very easy to get the hang of and for vapers that want a mod with an integrated battery it’s a great choice. This is a mod I personally use on a daily basis.

Read our full Innokin CoolFire Ultra TC150 review here.


  • Upto 150W
  • Resistance from 0.1 Ohm
  • 4000mAh integrated battery
  • Solid, quality build that is a pleasure to hold and use

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Wotofo Flux – 157W – Dual 18650 Batteries

wotofo flux vape modWotofo don’t release vape mods that often but when they do they do it well. That’s definitely the case with the Wotofo Flux mod and indeed the kit with tank.

A top quality mod but it isn’t just the aesthetics and build quality that excel.

The Flux is simple in it’s features, simply having variable wattage and three power modes: Standard, Powerful, and Powerful+ Mode. Powerful and Powerful + Mode gives you an increased firing speed and super quick ramp up time providing a superb vape every time.

Powered by two 18650 batteries the mod was recently reviewed for Eciglick by The Devil Vaper who summed it up with.

“Well, Wotofo have done it again. Smashed it right out the ballpark with the collaboration with Rig Mod.”

Can’t get more straightforward than that. Simply a great quality mod with the design to match.

Read Our Full, Hands On Wotofo Flux Review Here.


  • Dimensions: 91.6 x 50.8 x 30.3mm
  • 5-200W
  • 2 X 18650 Batteries
  • Firing Mode: Standard/Powerful/Powerful+
  • Temp Control
  • Min resistance: 0.08ohm
  • Constructed from Zinc Alloy

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Aspire Skystar 210W – Dual 18650 Batteries

aspire skystar revvo modAspire have been on a run lately with new device releases and the latest and our favourite to date is the Skystar 210W mod.

This definitely looks different than the normal mods we see, no gimmicky design, just a simple ergonomic mod that looks the doggies and feels great in the hand.

The Skystar runs off two 18650 batteries giving a good amount of vaping time before a charge is needed (dependent on wattage). It also has the features, such as TC, to keep even the most hardcore vaper happy.

If you are a vaper that wants that padding in their available wattage and a mod capable of handling low resistance builds then this is one of the best options out there.

The Revvo tank that was originally paired as a kit with this mod is also a treat with this mod.

Read Our Full Aspire Skystar Review Here


  • 5-210W
  • 91mm x 50mm x 33mm
  • 1.3″ OLED Touch Screen
  • Powered by 2 X 18650 batteries
  • A beauty of a box mod with plenty of power.

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Wismec RX2 21700 – 230W – Dual 21700/18650

wismec rx2 21700 modThe Wismec RX 21700 is part of the best selling RX range of mods. Firing upto 230W this mod can be powered by either 21700 batteries or 18650 by using the included adapter.

Straight off the bat the 21700 offers excellent battery life from the two supplied batteries in the kit (Please check if your kit includes batteries). It does also come with an adapter to allow the use of any 18650’s you may have.

The mod has all the other features you would expect from an advanced mod as well as a huge 230W power output. The well knonw form factore of the RX mod is present making for a great hand feel and a

Despite the new bigger batteries the RX 21700 can house it’s still a well proportioned device that keeps the tried and tested RX form factor and feels great in the hand.

Read Our Full Wismec RX 21700 Kit Review here


  • 230W
  • Dimensions: 46.03 X 37.10 X 81.50mm
  • Powered by 2 X 21700 batteries (2 X 18650 batteries with adapter)
  • Temp control
  • Great battery life
  • 18650 battery adapter included
  • Can accommodate tanks up-to 30mm tanks

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Box Mod/Vape Mod Buying Guide

For new vapers: Just because you’ve seen a MOD with a 200W power output doesn’t mean this is the best box mod or more importantly the best vape MOD for you. The likelihood of you actually using anywhere near that much power is not a reality for most. 50-90W is one of the most popular ranges that will cater to most sub ohm tanks on the market.

So there are many ways of approaching what would be the ideal device for you.

The first is considering what kind of vaper you are and what you expect to do with your box mod.

Are you looking to move on from Vape Pen style e cigarette? Do you use normal tanks/clearomizers such as (or similar to) the Aspire Nautilus or Innokin Endura T18/T20 and plan to continue with these?

If so then you really don’t need a 200W box mod. Our list starts at 30W and while these will still be overkill in terms of power output for the above tanks,the build quality and battery life are the big selling points and the features that will benefit you most.

It’s worth noting care needs to be taken if going for higher wattage devices, set the power too high and your coils will burn and of course be ruined.

Are you using sub ohm tanks (SMOK TFV/Aspire Cleito/ Horizon Falcon)?

Or wanting to explore sub ohm vaping but don’t want to build your own RDA’s?

If so you will need a box mod capable of handling coil resistances lower than 1.0 ohm. Most of the popular sub ohm tanks use coils around 0.2-0.5 ohms.

Double check the coil resistance of your tank before buying a vape mod to be sure they are compatible. All of the devices above are sub ohm capable.

I use a mix of tanks, one of which is the Aspire Nautilus 2. This is mainly used when I’m going out as the performance is good yet it doesn’t spit out the clouds that a sub ohm tank does. I for one don’t want to be blowing out humongous clouds when I’m out in a bar!

70% of my use is with sub ohm tanks around the 25-65W mark depending on the tank I am using. This is perfect for me and will likely be where a high percentage of sub ohm vapers will sit.

There are sub ohm tanks that come with 0.15-0.3 Ohm coils (Aspire Cleito, SMOK TFV8, Freemax Mesh Pro) and to get the best out of them they need to be used at a higher wattage, around 50-85W and for some maybe even 100W+.

So if you can see yourself using coils in this range then be sure to buy a box mod with enough power.

Or are you in the more advanced bracket of vapers that uses drippers almost exclusively?

This is still kind of similar to the advice given for sub ohm tank users above. You will need a device with a high wattage output that can handle low resistance builds.

Although if you are at this level then you likely know this already. It all depends on what resistance you are building at.

Integrated Battery or Replaceable?.

  • Do you want a device that has a built in battery and you simply recharge using a USB cable?
  • Or do you want a box mod with a removable battery?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying a unit with an integrated battery (these are some of my favourite devices) but they are in essence disposable products.

When your battery dies the whole unit needs replacing. This sounds worse than it is in reality. Under normal use a Lithium Ion battery should last a long long time although performance will degrade slightly over time.

You will most likely be well on to your new shiny new box mod before the current one dies a death.

The other option is a vape mod with removable batteries.

This allows you to just replace the battery when it dies or decreases in performance rather than replacing the whole MOD.

Most vape mods that require replaceable batteries, if not all, require you to buy batteries separately and if you don’t have a suitable charger then you will also need one of these. The most popular size of battery used is the 18650 but newer designs are catering to 20700 and 21700 batteries of which usually have better run times and can be used at higher wattages.

You will also (definitely) need to learn what batteries are suitable for each device. I can’t state how important that is! Read our guide on batteries for sub ohm vaping here.

So there are lots of things to be clear with before making that purchase. If you are new to sub ohm vaping please read our beginners guide to sub ohm vaping here if that’s the direction you want to go.

2019’s Best Box Mods / Top 8 Vape Mod Favourites

  1. Best vape mods and box mods 2017JAC Vapour S22 (Beginners)
  2. Aspire Zelos (Beginners/Intermediate)
  3. Innokin EZ Watt (Beginner/Intermediate)
  4. Jacvapour Series B DNA75 (Intermediate/Advanced)
  5. SMOK MAG Grip (Intermediate/Advanced)
  6. Geekvape Aegis 100W – (Advanced/High Power)
  7. Wotofo Flux – (Advanced/High Powered)
  8. Aspire Skystar (Advanced/High Powered)
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  1. Hi all.

    Relatively new to vaping and recently upgraded from a Endura T20 S to a iStick Pico with Melo 3 tank and enjoyed it for a whopping 6 days before it completely failed and won’t turn on. I’ve got my money refunded so looking at other options so after some recommendations.
    I like the adjustable airflow on the Melo tank so I could alternate between DTL and MTL but I never bothered (not that I had a chance to learn) all the different temp settings etc and just adjusted the wattage to suit the Melo and my old Prism T20S tank.

    Could anyone recommend other reliable battery mods. Ideally one that gives good flavour (I like the Dinner Lady juice) and not overly fussed with all the settings, and one that uses 18650 batteries as I also bought brand new ones and a charger 😛

    • Hey Lee,

      The flavour is down to your tank and adjusting the wattage on the mod to find your sweet spot so choosing a mod is all down to what you like the look of.

      Here are some recommended single 18650 battery mods that we personally rate highly (can also be seen above).

      JAC Vapour Series B DNA75
      Wismec CB-80
      Geekvape Aegis – A little chunkier for sure but offers a lot (water/shock proof) and looks great.

      Let me know if you have any more questions on anything!

    • I’d recommend you look into just getting a mod that takes 2 18650 batteries… you’re gonna end up carrying around a 2nd battery anyway if you go with a 1 battery model so why not just keep everything in 1 place? I have a really nice sx mini that never leaves the house with me cause the single battery just doesnt last if you need any real power. Also, you mentioned temp control… yea it’s nice to have the option, but it’s not always as consistent on mods in my opinion. I’ve always stuck to wattage mode when using tanks and gotten everything I needed out of them.

      A couple of 18650 mods to consider:

      1) simple but good- the Wismec RX2 21700 is pretty solid. It can use 2x 18650s. I had the older model of this mod; it spent a year sitting in my pocket as my primary mod, and held up nicely. It still works but it’s gone into retirement. This is a pretty simple mod and missing some options that others have, but it’s a solid performer with all the basics you need.

      2) A kit with good features- The innokin proton. Comes in a kit with a nice tank. Great, easy to use user interface, a big easy to read screen, and some extra frills. My favorite feature is that you can set it up to change wattage over time, so you can program it to heat up your coil for a second then lower the wattage for the rest of the hit. You can also change the display color to match your tank if you like.

      3) portable quality- I know you said you bought 18650s, but something else to take a look at is the Lost Vape Orion DNA. It is a different type of setup that uses higher nic juice but burns less of it per hit; it’s a smaller mod with an integrated battery, and you buy disposable tanks (pods) for it with built in coils. Like I said, whole different style but it’s really catching on. I actually just ordered one after talking to a couple of buddies who have purchased them. Super portable,tons of options, and it switches from mtl to dl.

      A quick note on tanks too… if you’re looking for a sub-obm tank, definitely go for one that uses mesh coils. It’s a newer style of coil that is more efficient; better flavor, lasts longer. I use a freemax mesh pro; it’s a larger tank but it’s my new favorite. There are a ton of coil variations you can get for it to change how it hits. The tank matters more than the mod does as far as getting the type of hit you want off your vape. The innokin mod I recommended above comes with a decent mesh tank so it’s a good set to order if you wanna check out a new tank with your new mod.

      I hope this helps!

  2. Hi Jonny,

    Great site full of good info. I used to have an aspire pocket vape pen to get me into vaping and stop smoking. But now looking for something a bit better as it wasn’t very strudy.

    Id like a MTL vape (mod or not – not too fussed) thats not too big to fit in your pocket but has a punch. Not fussed about making a cloud. What would be the best options to consider?


  3. Hi Jonny! I am looking to buy a vape mod but I still can’t make up my mind even after reading your post. I just want a vape that has good clouds and good taste as I don’t care for the nic. I would want a box that didn’t look too bulky so perhaps the Jacvapour might be a good option, but I read that that is MTL and I think I need DTL. Anyways I also found this other mod from Ijoy called the “shogun univ kit” which looks absolutely amazing and it seems like a good one as well, but I don’t know for sure and I can’t seem to get it shipped to me (netherlands). If you have any suggestions I’d appreciate it a lot.

  4. Hi, thanks for this. One thing to mention, I bought the Aspire Zelos – 50W and it’s junk. Fell apart in no time and the tiny coil didn’t give any flavour. I’m surprised to see it here.

    • That’s a shame to hear Jim.. Mine is still looking good (bar scuffs and scratches) after 1.5 years. Of course the battery isn’t quite what it was but that’s the nature of the beast with cells. Thanks for sharing your experience with it though!

  5. Hiya. I am a complete newby trying to quit the fags. I would definitely be MTL. I am looking for a easy to use vape. I need a one brand does the job kinda vape. But ideally with a tank that has a slightly bigger capacity than the small vape pens I have been using (and they are terrible lol) Any suggestions please.

    • Hi Maz,

      Good to see you’re looking to make the switch.

      The max capacity in the UK is 2ml due to regulations unfortunately. It’s not too bad though for certain devices.

      I’ve been using the Innokin EQ pod mod a lot recently. I’d recommend taking a look at using nic salt e-liquids with this as they can be more effective in helping you stay off the cigs.

      Have a look at the two links mentioned above and any questions on either leave a comment on those posts 🙂



  6. I am using a Vaporesso with a Veco tank. The problem is the EUC Clapton 0.4ohm coils. I have primed them and started low on the watts (15-20) but eventually they either taste burnt or the e-liquid (70vg/30pg) has almost zero flavour once I reach 35+ watts. I haven’t cranked it up past 45 watts and am unsure if I should? Also is Vaporesso a decent make as I was considering getting the Revenger Kit with the NRG tank or would you suggest going down another route. I mainly want decent flavour from my experience.

    • It sounds like maybe you’re having wicking issues. I gave up on tanks where I can’t make the coils and do the wicking myself. Once you get the hang of building a few favorite tanks, you’ll never go back to buying pre-made coil modules. After that, my next addiction turned to mixing my own juices. I now have favorite mixes, and know exactly what kind of wicking they need to ensure a full bodied hit every time. More VG, and you’ll need looser wicking to get enough juice to the coil… more PG and you’ll need tighter wicks to keep it from leaking and spitting.

      • not neccessarily true.. i bought the girlfriend a Voopoo Too as a gift and shes let me try it a few times. I thought it was so impressive that im now considering getting a voopoo drag 2 kit just cos i think the flavour generated by the uforce tank/ coils is very good for a stock subohm tank! sometimes i find that wicking and coiling can be more annoying than its worth – especially if you are out and about.

  7. Hi Johnny, have been running an ijoy lux for a few years and was looking at the ijoy avenger kit with tank and 20700’s.. What’s your thoughts?

    • Hey David,

      Wow.. The Lux has lasted you well, I remember that one 🙂

      We haven’t actually had our hands on the iJoy Avenger kit.

      From what I’ve heard it’s a good kit though and you shouldn’t go too far wrong with it.



  8. Hey I’m looking for a new setup so I can have multiple flavours on the go at once. Right now I have an aspire speeder with a vandy vapes bonza rda running Clapton coils at about .26 ohms. More of a flavor chaser but big clouds are fun. Any recommendations?

  9. Hi guys! I’m from Estonia,smoking SMOK Alien 220w. Its awesome but already a bit old.Want a new one,similar kind. My friend has Voopoo Drag and its great. Should i just buy new Alien or is there any similar vapes.Thanks

  10. Hey team, I am currently trying to decide between a vaporesso revenger and a voopoo drag and was wondering what your recommendation is between the two and why? Cheers

    • Of the two I personally prefer the Voopoo Drag. A great performer and I think the looks and form factor are great 🙂 Feels really solid in the hand.

      Just a personal preference though 🙂

  11. I am a newbie need help! looking to buy a vape device any suggestions? I want one where you get the best in flavor and lasts as I used to smoke.

        • By reading the post linked to that fully explains the difference to those that are new to vaping?? I personally think it’s important for new vapers to learn and understand the basics of vaping. It helps in ensuring the right kind of product is recommended, both hardware and e-liquid.

          Obviously you have a one vape fits all kind of attitude.. Rather than leaving a ‘stupid’ comment why don’t you enlighten us by recommending a product to Philippe?

  12. hi, I was hoping to ask a question. I went from using a 20watt e leaf I stick now a 50watt aspire zelos. I have went through a few of each and I was hoping to get something that might last a little longer . I am a MTL vapor I love my aspire nautilus mini top. I was wondering if mods thathave a removable battery would last longer and if so which one would you recommend for me? I usually only go up to about 10 or 11 watts because I seem to burn my coil if I go up to high.I sick on my mod all day lol. thanks for any info!!

    • Hi Amber,

      Removable battery mods can of course last longer as you can just replace the battery when it starts to diminish rather than changing the entire mod when you have an integrated battery. All this of course is based on the internals of the mod working well over time 🙂

      Just be sure to read up on battery safety and if you are carrying around spare batteries a case/sleeve for your batteries are essential. Never carry around loose batteries in your bag or pocket.

      One more thing that will be good to invest in is an external charger. It will not only allow for safer charging but you will also be able to charge your spare battery so you will always have your mod powered up and ready to go, which as a heavy vaper will be good for you.

      As for devices, the following are all solid options:

      Jacvapour Series B DNA
      Wismec CB-80 Mod
      Eleaf Pico 21700
      Joyetech Espion Solo

      Let me know if you have any other questions..


      • Biggest problem with internal lipo batteries is if they become unbalanced, theres no way to charge them. I had a istick 200 that became unbalanced in a week, and as a safety feature would not allow it to charge. Would definitely recommend removable batteries, and an external charger.

  13. Hi Johnny,

    I was hoping you could give me a couple of box mod recommendations please?

    I have been using an aspire breeze 2 to replace the cigarettes I would normally smoke when in the pub. However I’ve started to notice that the battery runs out before closing time!! I am not a massive cloud chaser but want a compact, well built and long battery lasting mod for direct to lung use.

    Any ideas?


    • Hey mate.. Check out the following:

      Aspire Zelos kit, the Nautilus 2 tank is a good one and it’s compact, not as small as the Breeze mind! But if you are looking for good battery life then this should be good.

      The Nautilus 2 does however provide more of a MTL vape similar to the Breeze, although you can take shorter direct to lung hits with the 0.7ohm coil.

      Jacvapour Series S 22 – Another good kit, easy to use with an excellent tank.

      Let me know if you have any other questions on these or anything else you may see 🙂


      • Great thanks for the reply!!!! I saw the s22 and was considering it so it’s good that you agree!

        However I was also thinking that having a replaceable battery might be useful (especially when going to weekend festivals and stuff) is there an option in this space that offers removable batteries so I can carry spares?

        Thanks again!!!

  14. Hi, I need help guys, I’m vaping since 2016 and still can’t stop cigarettes. Have couple of kits all dna hcigar s and SX minis, lots of flavors all tank models and still can’t throw cigars away. What’s the best juice and Nic doze to end the smoking habit…. thanks

    • Hi Billy,

      It’s hard to say what the best e-liquid would be for you as tates differ, I’ve not personally had any cigar flavoured e-liquid if you are looking to replace that sensation. For nicotine strengths it’s normally recommended to start higher and work your way down but as you’ve been vaping for a couple of years I’m guessing you may have tried that already.

      Michelle, one of our reviewers, was dual use (cigs and e-cigs) but over the last 7/8 days she hasn’t had any tobacco. This is down to vaping with Nic Salts so definitely worth trying these out if you are looking to get the cravings under control.

    • Hi Bill.. i am also planning to quit cigratte so i have started vaping .. it have been 3 weeks i have stopped smoking cigratte ..i stay around people who smokes cigratte but still i dont feel smoking that .. i believe first you have to make up your mind that you are going to quit it..i have been smoking since 22 years and now i feel its time to quit it.. good luck mate …

    • Hey billy,

      I’ve stopped smoking for 3 months now and I was a hectic smoker, 2 packs a day.. try getting rid of the cigarettes especially if you know it’s in your house or somewhere near to you.. and give it one week.. the taste for cigarettes will leave your system.. and you will enjoy your juices more.. but don’t fool your self by having one cigarette a day or lessen you consumption because that would only lead you to smoke one more again.. it worked for me so I’d reccomend that..

    • Om vapors (and I’m sure some others) carry WTA juices, which stands for “whole tobacco alkanoids”. They give you nicotine and some of the other compounds you get from burning cigs that you dont get from vaping normal nic juice. Might be a good starting point to finding a step down that will work for you. I quit smoking by vaping, and the fact that I still wanted cigs after a day of vaping for quite some time showed me how much other stuff besides nicotine comes out of tobacco when you burn it. Good luck!

  15. Hey Jonny,
    I just started the whole vape thing to give up smoking… not doing so great at that though. 🙁
    I bought what I though was a cheap kit when I was in the UK in December, but it seems I got stitched up.
    The day I got back home I charged it up and filled it up but it just spat juice up the mouth piece, took it to a shop and they just said throw away the tank…. 🙁
    Anyway, got a new tank and has been OK but battery life is crap (non replaceable) , lasts only a couple of hours. and doesnt give me a lot of satisfaction… hence I keep grabbing a smoke.

    So my cousin in the UK has a Smok 220w alien kit she swears by, has not had a cigarette since getting it…. They are getting hard to find in NZ so would that be a good kit to get me off the smokes? are there other brands of similar quality?
    I dont want to show off and make big ass clouds.. I just want a smoke 🙂


    • Hey Neil,

      Doesn’t sound like a great start but good to hear you’re giving it another shot.

      The SMOK Alien is good but it’s not necessarily a beginners device. You may know Neil, but if not, there are two main types of vaping, mouth to lung and direct to lung. The latter is what you would be getting with the Alien kit and included tank.

      So, be worth checking out the linked guide above to see what type you are.

      The TFV8 tank that usually comes with the kit is also one of the thirstier tanks out there, it kicks out some clouds too!

      Not trying to put you off, just making you aware 🙂 – If you like the SMOK Alien mod you coud always pair it with another tank such as the Aspire Cleito / Cleito EXO or the Uwell Valyrian tank.

      There are other great brands to keep an eye out for, Eleaf are making some very good quality product, the Invoke kit is very good.

      The iJoy Captain mod is very good – available in two versions – the PD270 and the PD1865

      I have been using the Voopoo Drag on a daily basis, top quality although the design may not be for everyone.

      Finally, Wismec are also one to look out for with the likes of the RX 21700

      Apologies if I’ve listed a lot there, not sure what is available in NZ, although you could look to import from the likes of HeavenGifts/Vapesourcing.

      I’m sure you’ll likely have more questions so please fire away. The main thing is to know what style of vape you are looking for from your tank. That will narrow things down.

      • Hi Neil,

        What Johnny mentioned here is very valuable and thanks to him.

        I would like to add a few of my experience as it feels good when a smoker quits smoking and we as a community should help each other.

        Contrary to what many reports, reviews, suggestions say on what to use as a beginner, I would say this is no rocket science that you need to graduate in progression. You can start with the most advanced one that fits your needs and is safe and legitimate.

        Once you have the vaping hardware, you will learn and master it as time progresses. This saves money and also puts you on the right path to getting most benefit and enjoying vaping, thus helping you to get off cigarettes. What you do need to know before you purchase on the physics behind that helps you to avoid safety hazards and what terminology/technology vaping entails. This is end of the philosophical yet pragmatic view.

        ** Moving on to your case – Technical and Commercial Analysis
        How much do you know about vaping in terms of physics? If you already know, great.

        If limited awareness on this: simply put a liquid is vaporised using a heating coil and with air intake creates the vapour that you inhale with nicotine dissolved in it entering your bloodstream.

        Vaping differs from smoking as there is no combustion, which results in larger particle size distribution for nicotine to enter the blood stream. Hence, the terms Mouth to Lung inhalation is used to get the max absorption rate, since if you inhale into your mouth and then try to take into your lungs, there is a lot of diffusion of nicotine, which kind of reduces the throat hit that you normally experience when you smoke.

        Not that you cannot do mouth to lung – you need to find your sweet spot and there are other tricks like reducing air intake quantity etc. that you will figure out as you get to vape more and more. Perhaps you have already experienced this with your first vaping kit.

        Then there is the aspect of safety regarding current, resistance, power. Most of the accidents of fire with vaping devices happen due to batteries not being able to handle the heat produced due to a surge in current passing through them.

        There is build of gases inside the battery and they explode due to over pressure and catch fire as there is flammable chemical inside it. Thus, it is safer to use vaping mods (firing device where the battery is located) that are regulated, i.e. have a chip that protects current surges, just like your laptop battery. You need to understand the relation between current, voltage and power using Ohm’s law. Power (P) = Voltage (V) x Current (I) and V = I x Resistance (R). For a fixed power, if resistance increases, current drops which means that for a very low resistance vaping coil, current is high.

        In regulated devices, when you set your power to say 50W and you put in a coil of say x ohms, the device will adjust the voltage such that no more than a particular maximum current flows through and you can check that. It depends on number of batteries connected in series or parallel. When you use unregulated device, it does not control the voltage but delivers maximum voltage based on the type, number and charge of the batteries inside.

        So you have only 1 parameter to adjust and that is the resistance of the coil. If you use a very low resistance coil and the device used max voltage, there is a high potential for a very large current to pass through that the battery cannot handle and it can be a safety hazard. Additionally, there also have been cases when the atomiser (the part with the eliquid and coil that sits on top of the mod) has a bad connection with the mod resulting in short circuit leading a large draw of current.

        Hence, here experience is required to know which atomiser is compatible with the unregulated mod. My personal take here, regulated mods are safer inherently, of course you have to take care which batteries you use as these are high voltage batteries usually (more than 4 V) – use only recognised makes e.g. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic etc. and check for their specs should be for high current rating say 20A or higher for continuous draw and peak draw needs to be higher. 20A is usually good enough since most regulated mods have protection up to 20A.

        With the above in mind the next step is to think and decide what type of mod. Criteria for choice here: replaceable battery? No. of battery? Type of battery? A good compromise of all of these for me practically is replaceable 18650 type batteries and minimum 2 and maximum 3.

        With 2, the device is nice and compact to fit in my shirt pockets and not too thick. 3 gives more battery time. With 2 and vaping almost entire day (except sleep) lasts me almost 2 days on a single full charge – I use Sony VTC6 batteries or LG. Next criterion is which company mod to take. For 2x 18650 mod, there are many choices – look at the form factor of these mods. Some are wedge shapes, triangual that are thicker to hold and some cyclindrical/tubular/rectangular that are thinner or flatter and both these types are of the same height almost that is determined by the battery height as they all have 18650 type.

        There are also other battery types but they are heavier, 18650 are most used in vaping and they are the same that go into your laptop battery (3 cell or 6 cell etc., where are connected in series and parallel arrangement to created one big long laptop battery sealed).

        My top budget choices for mods with above criteria that I have bought:
        Smok Alien 220W (2 battery)
        Wismec Reauleaux (2, 3 and 2/3 batteries)
        Wismec Predator (2 battery)
        Vaporessor Revenger (2 battery)
        Pioneer IPV8

        I will pick Vaporesso Revenger or IPV8. All of them do a good job, have a slightly different screen but what matters most is when you fire, it should do a good job. What is good? A quick vapor with every setting you have and less loss of current, better battery management and quicker menu adjustment and most importantly a reliable screen. Smok Alien – I loved it however, the screen gets damaged quite soon.

        You can find on internet so many users had problem with the screen for Smok and most of the solutions work only for a short time and eventually you go blind. I still use it as I know all the settings by heart and rest is my feeling of how the vapor feels but I cannot see excactly what power I am on and how much amps are going through or even what battery juice is left. It is like driving with eyes closed in the neighbourhood where you have been all the year, so you know the roads and the length out of your head :).

        Where to buy: You can find local dealers and if you want to import, USA is the best or try or (I have used all of them several times and all of them are excellent). Gearbest and Fasstech are China based but pretty cheap offers and excellent service. Gearbest has nearly 24 hour live chat support – check the prices out.

        Why go for an advanced MOD as above even as a beginner? Because you will get straightaway the pleasure and satisfaction that will help you quit smoking. I started with a simpler kit but within 2 weeks switched to an advanced one and quit smoking. Simpler devices (tubular pen like etc. or simple all-in-one built-in battery compact ones) do not give a lot of power that limits the amount of vapour and the fullness of taste that is required to forget the taste of cigarettes. The word ‘beginner’ should not be taken that seriously except for the safety aspect that I have written above. The vaping experience itself will grow gradually, just start with an advanced but safe device. Experiement with how you inhale and how you press the fire button and how much air inlet do you want.

        FINAL VERDICT: Invest in a good Regulated MOD (do not go for simple tubular or all-in-one kits thinking you’re beginner – you will waste money and not get the satisfaction). If you need any info you can contact me through Twitter: @dreamyskull

        • wow. That is a lot of pertinent info and is of great help. I recently started vaping and was wondering if I should upgrade to a 100 watt regulated or go upto 200 watts. Most views are that 60 or so would suffice for my needs as I am a MTL person, and I don’t need to be fogging machine.
          Your take is similar to what I was thinking. Go for a 200 watts device as maybe I may need more power in future, so why not have a device that can handle that. Meanwhile just use it on a lower wattage. So, my dilemma begins with what kind of a tank to pair it with? What kind of coils are best for flavors? Whivh of these mouth to lung tanks are the easiest to use and maintain in terms of simple filling procedure and less chances of leaks etc. Which of these tanks offer dual modes like pre made coils to begin with and have providion for adapters that can swap out pre made coils and are rebuildable.
          Getting the answers for these is really difficult as most vape experts are either promoting brands or reviewing products in general. No one is interested in helping out newbie vapers and imparting relevant and pertinent info. And then I chanced upon this page and honestly it felt good to see people genuinely putting in time and effort to lend a hand to people like them who come from a smoking background and trying to quit.
          Hope I will find some answers before I give up and give in to the temptation of lighting one up, as compared to the science and tech and the whole maze of the vaping scenario it seems like an easy way out to get my fix.
          You guys are awesome though and a heartfelt big thank you to Jonny and Sunny for sharing their knowledge and being such help and providing some direction to me.

          • Hey Shades,

            Thanks for the comment.

            What setup are you currently using?

            In short, yes you are right, you don’t *need* a high wattage device.

            A few things to keep in mind when choosing a mod.

            If you are a (Mouth to Lung) MTL vaper keep in mind that you will likely only vape at lower wattage, especially if you are using standard tank that use stock coils.

            I vape MTL on a few different tanks from 18W-24W dependent on what tank I am using. For example I would use the Jacvapour S22 or Aspire Naulitus 2 tank at no more than 17-19W.

            For wattage around 20-25W I use a tank that you can build your own coils/buy pre-made coils and add cotton, the Digiflavor Siren 2. I do sometimes vape this around 28W depending on the coils and eliquid I use at the time.

            I use mods anywhere from 60W-220W for these.

            This of course is only a guideline and personal preference.

            So pretty much any recent vape mod will have you covered powerwise for MTL. There are really two main reasons an MTL vaper may look to go for a higher wattage device.

            The first (as you mention) is that down the line you may decide you want to try sub ohm vaping. But and this is important! It’s very unlikely you will vape over 100W on a regular basis. You can get an excellent sub ohm vape from 40-80W which is a sweet spot for many sub ohm vapers. I don’t personally know anyone that vapes at 150-200W so while it’s perfectly fine to have ‘that extra wattage cushion’ don’t get too hung up on thinking the higher the wattage the device the better it is, a lot of it is overkill.

            If you could see yourself vaping at 60W for any reason in the future though it’s best to buy a mod that offers more than 60W as it’s max output.

            The second reason is that the battery capacity tends to increase with the wattage to a certain extent. This is of course a positive and could really extend your uninterrupted vaping time, especially if vaping MTL tanks.

            Hope that makes sense. Let us know what you are using now and we can recommend some tanks to look at no prob.



  16. Hey Johnny!

    Awesome thread. I’ve been vaping for a couple years now but not a “serious” vaper like some… I’ve had a couple vapes but honestly could not name them. I have an Aspire mini Pegasus now but I need a new one since it’s giving me problems. You seem like you know what you’re doing so I was gonna ask you if you could recommend a vape that is smaller like one that fits in your pocket well but still packs a punch and delivers a good kick. I’m not a cloud chaser or even want that much cloud. I just need that nic buzz every so often and would like to whip out my vape when I need it. Any suggestions? I’m thinking a cap of $75 and smaller would be great but not necessary. Thanks!

  17. I was wondering if you could tell me the best option out of:
    1. Voopoo Drag 157
    2. Wismec predator 228
    3. Vaporesso revenger 220

    Also could you let me know what are the best but economiccal atomizers for the voopoo drag.

    • All good choices Abid… For me personally I really enjoy the Voopoo Drag with the Resin finish. I prefer the design and performance has been excellent.

      So, you won’t go too far wrong here with buying the mod you think looks the best 🙂

      As for economical tanks.. If you mean on e-liquid use then you may struggle 🙂

      Stay away from any of the SMOK TFV range of tanks, they guzzle juice.

      I personally use three tank setups regularly. The Aspire Cleito, the Wotofo Serpent SMM RTA and the Uwell Crown 3.

      Any other question let me know.


  18. Hi Jonny,
    I have the Innokin Cool Fire 4. Will the Aspire Cleito tank fit this unit or should I just stick with the stock tank? Thanks

    • Hey Kevin,

      Yes and no… it fits on the CoolFire 4 no problem. But, not all coils will be good. Only the 0.4Ohm coils will work well. The standard 0.4Ohm Cleito coils are rated for use between 40-60W and as you know the Coolfire is only capable of a max 40W output.

      I personally vape around 28-35W with the 0.4Ohm Cleito coil. May too cool a vape or feel underpowered for some but works for my personal tastes.

      Hope that doesn’t confuse matters more!



      • Thanks for your help Jonny. I will give the Cleito coil a go as I normally vape at 35w as well.

        Just one last question please. Which mod(s) would you recommend for 80vg/20pg or 70vg/30pg that gives the best flavour (with cool DTL hits) and loads of fog. I have been a smoker for many years and have been vaping for about a year now off-and-on, but I have yet to find a mod and juice combo that will allow a nice DTL experience. I know that there are a lot of variables involved, but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

        • Hey Kevin,

          The Cleito will handle 80/20 and 70/30 well. The 80VG will offer a touch more in the cloud department but it’s really about experimenting with juices.

          It’s more the tank that will give you the flavour/cloud vaping experience but if you are vaping at around 35W it could be beneficial to have a device that can give you more than 40W for flexibility when sub ohm vaping. You never know when you may need that bit of extra power. You will also likely be able to increase your battery life.

          For mods with integrated batteries the Innokin Cool Fire ultra is one that has served me well and I use daily. You will also be familiar with the form factor (although chunkier) and menu controls.


  19. Hi Jonny ,
    Wish everything is going well 👍 with HAPPY NEW YEAR , only one question what about your suggestion to get a new vape kit or separate parts ! And for the both of answers from you I need the best in real using forever only change the normal things ?? Please try to helping me this week
    Best regards

    • Oh sorry, I didn’t get my question by professionally because am still beginner with a good jomotech ultra 60 TC , actually I like the built-in battery , but around the suggestions I don’t have any idea only after I’ll use ! 😋 That’s all ,

  20. Hi
    I bought a Triton 50w from Amazon I’ve no idea about these things it’s good only downside is battery life i am quite heavy vaper only 6 days in and pleased I’m doing well but I’m only getting 6 hrs max outta charge all I’d like is a something with fab battery life as I’m away from home most days caring for my son I don’t understand jargon at all all I want is long battery life good smoke so it feels like I’m smoking lol but not overly expensive these 2ml tanks are crap wish there were larger ones any help be fab

    • Hi Karen,

      Not heard of the Triton Mod before, do you have a link so I can check it out and better understand what you have?

      2ml tanks are, unfortunately, now the largest capacity legally available due to the government regulations set in place last May 🙁



  21. Any good ones from the below list of starter kit ?

    Smok g150 internal battery mod

    Innokin cool fire ultra 150w

    Kangertech iken 230w kit

    Wismec sinuous fj200

    Eleaf Qc200 with mela 300 starter kit

    • Wishy washy answer but all the above should be solid options.

      We have only used two of the above though. The Cool Fire Ultra and the SMOK G150.

      I personally use the CoolFire ultra pretty much on a daily basis and have been doing for a few months and it’s never missed a beat. Very well built.

      In short, if you like the design of one of your choices better than the other then go for that.

      If I were to go out and buy one of the above today I would go for the Sinusous or Cool Fire.

      Let us know which you go for!

  22. Hi man
    I am relatively new to vaping and i am considering on buying the voopoo drag 157 resign mod but i have very few knowledge on vaping on general and i am not sure what atomizer would work with this mod,considering the fact that i would like to play around 60-80 wats.Could you give your opinion on this or even suggest me any tank.
    Thank you for your time reading this.

  23. Hi there Jonny, I could do with some help here. I got the eleaf pico 75W with the melo 3 tank and started vaping for about 2 months now in an effort to quit smoking. its all going good but lately and the more I get into it I cant seem to feel any flavours being delivered using the 0.5 ohms coil. Especially now that I am getting into mixing my own juice I cant seem to be enjoying them. I have tried my juices on drippers of friends and the more advanced mods that they have and they taste like heaven :):) so I think I may be requiring a better sub-ohm tank and was thinking about the smok TFV8. would it fit on my pico since one of your reviews that I have read said about 22mm space for the pico while the smok TFV8 Big Baby Beast tank is 24mm and if yes what coils do you think I should show preference to? Or maybe you have some other suggestion??

    Thaanking you in advance, Petros

  24. Hi Jonny,

    I read your review, however I couldn’t make a decision yet. I have an old SnowWolf 200 TC as well as Smok Alien 220W. However the LCD on the alien stopped working and I went through all the fixes recommended on the web which ended in no result. So, I’m looking for a new Mod to replace my Alien and I’m not sure if I’m going to buy another alien considering my bad experience. I vape on both sub-ohm tanks and RDAs. I’m considering Wismec RX 2/3 as an option. I would appreciate if you give me some suggestions as well as the reasons backing them.

    Thank you.

    • Hi Sepehr,

      The RX 2/3 is a good option, it allows for the use of 2 or 3 batteries, of course altering the size depending on what you choose.

      Another option to look out that is a recent iJoy Captain mods – The PD270 and the PD1865 – Both pretty much the same apart from the type of batteries and size.

      And the Geekvape Aegis.

      If you like the look of the following Voopoo Mods (Voopoo Drag and Voopoo Alpha One) they are fantastic performers, don’t let the name put you off! I personally think they look great and I will be updating the list to include at least one of them soon 🙂

      Didn’t want to throw too many in the mix! but there you go 🙂 They are all very good for various reasons. If you read each review you will be able to get more of an insight into each and see if any fit your needs.



  25. Hi guys I’m looking to buy a vape device any suggestions? I want one where you get the best in flavour and lasts as I used to smoke and will be using it alot

  26. Hi Jonny,
    I’ve just bought an Aspire Cleito MTL 5ml tank as I was looking for a flavour boost to my iSubG tank. I have 2 x MVP 4 box mods that I use to fire it but they don’t last very long at 70w with the standard 0.16ohm coils. Can you recommend a box mod that will fire at 70w pretty much all day or that will at least last longer than a few hours. I haven’t used batteries before and have always stuck to integrated for the safety features. The Cleito certainly burns through some juice.

    • Hey Martin,

      Yeah sub ohm tanks with the bigger coils do tend to drink the e-liquid unfortunately!

      As for battery life, the lower resistance the coil, the more power it draws from the battery in general.

      First off, it may be worth you trying the higher resistance coils for the Cleito, the 0.4/0.5. I vape the 0.4Ohm around 30-40 Watts. So straight away you are cutting down on the power required.

      As for mods with integrated batteries. You need to look for a device with a high mAh rating. Some of the largest in this respect are:

      Eleaf QC 200W – 5000mAh
      Eleaf iPower – 5000mAh

      Any other questions Martin ask away.



  27. Hi jonny I what is your thoughts on the eleaf pico dual e-cig kit you get everything thing in mod tank batteries and five bottles of liquid for under sixty quid I’ve got all the top ones wismec gen 3 and so on just though i would you before i order one. Cav.

    • Hey Cav,

      Not personally used it but Laura-Ann (one of our reviewers) covered this not so long back. You can see what she thought of it here.

      I thought the original Pico was great and personally I like the look of the Dual one as well.

      Just make sure the batteries they are supplying are quality and if you haven’t already get yourself an external charger to charge your batteries!



  28. Hi I recently purchased the smok baby beast
    I love how you get the great flavour
    Only problem I have is I am burning through coils in a day or two
    I am a heavy vapour
    Do you have any suggestions please
    I usually purchase couls of Amazon do you think they could be fake?

    • Hi Vicki,

      Did you check if there was an authenticity scratch code on the pack and SMOK website? Can’t remember if the SMOK coils have them or not but I’m sure they do.

      I personally think it’s doubtful they are fake.

      As you say you are a heavy vaper. The type of e-juice (flavour, high VG) combined with that of your regular vaping is the cause. There is a lot of heat going through these coils on a regular basis. The cotton can only take so much.

      If you are using a sweet/dessert/some tobacco’s then these can clog coils up quicker too.

      Also, last but not least, you may just have a batch of coils that are lasting a little less than another batch would. Not ideal but sometimes, coils (even if they are the same type), can have a difference in quality.

      It may also be worth you trying some different coils altogether with the Baby Beast Vicki to see if that improves things.

      I use these guys for my e-liquid and coils, always spot on. They have various SMOK Coils available.



  29. Hey guys, looking some advice, just purchased a cloud beast king off of Amazon, the mod I’m currently using is the smok t-priv, I was wondering if this mod goes well with the king or if i should look into any other mods to go with it?

  30. Hi Guys, Need a good opinion.

    I’m planning to buy IPV3Li MOD. Even this mod is classic but I’ve heard many positive reviews about that. Honestly, I want also to hear from you about this mod.

    • Hey Fizzy,

      I’ve heard good things too in the past but we haven’t had our hands on this one so can’t say personally what it’s like.

      The YIHI chip it uses is supposed to be very good so I would say if you like he look of the mod and you can get a good price then the reviews you have read likely wouldn’t have changed much.

      Sorry couldn’t be more definitive!



  31. Hi Johnny!
    Would you recommend a Smok Treebox Plus? I’ve heard about some issues but I don’t know if they’ve been fixed or not. I’m looking for something nice to match my Griffin25 (currently using purple Alien) and I love the wood finish of the Treebox.


    • Hey Mike,

      We didn’t actually get our hands on the Treebox when it came out although it did look great at the time (and still does).

      So not sure of the issues and if it still has any I’m afraid!

      Mike (one of our reviewers) recently looked at the Lost Vape EPetite mod and although it just had ‘side plates’ rather than full wood finish it looks like a great little mod. Maybe worth checking out.

      Sorry couldn’t be much help there!



  32. Hi Jonny

    I have been vaping for a few months now and am using the Vype etank pro (MTL).

    I’m looking for a mod box as I’m wanting to go DTL. I’m looking at the Innoking cool fire 4 but not sure which would be best. I’m wanting one with tc as well. Would you recommend the 18650 battery that you charge separately or the tc 100 with the USB charge? Not sure what one would be best.

    I also really like the look of the Vaporfi Vex 75 but see you have to order that from the US and makes it quite a bit more expensive.

    I like the look of these as they seem pretty simple to use. Which one would you recommend or are there any other ones you could recommend?


    • Hey Ross,

      Thanks for stopping by!

      The Cool Fire 4 TC100 is a solid device that has been a good performer for a long time, so can recommend that for sure.

      Regarding getting an integrated or 18650 mod, it’s really a personal preference. Of course the big difference is that when the batteries die in an integrated mod the whole device needs replacing, with the latter just the batteries. Although you should still get plenty of use out of your mod before this happens.

      Also, with external batteries it’s recommended to buy an external charger and carry cases for when you want to take spares out with you. It’s important to read up on battery safety.

      I personally gravitate towards integrated for the ease of use. But that’s just me 🙂

      Yeah the Vex 75 is good but once you factor in shipping and possible duty charges it could be pretty expensive. There are plenty of other good devices available though:

      Integrated battery mods:

      Aspire Zelos
      Innokin Coolfire Ultra

      Single 18650 mods that are recommended

      Jacvapour Series B DNA 75
      SMOK AL85
      Eleaf Pico or Pico 25

      Dual 18650 mods

      Voopoo Drag
      Aspire Archon
      Joyetech eVic Primo

      Any other questions please ask!



      • Thanks for the reply Jonny. A lot of options there, think I would prefer integrated battery as well so going to go with the cool fire 4 TC100 as it seems to be simple to use, good quality and seems pretty popular too!

        Thanks for the info 👍🏻

  33. Hi, thanks for all the info.
    I get lost with all this beginner and intermediate chat, I can’t tell if it is about how much you want to mess with electrics or how ‘hardcore’ you are as a vaper. I vape for me and don’t care what level I’m at, don’t give a monkeys…

    I do need a new vape. I’ve been using 2 Kangertech subvod mega. From the ones I tried at sensible prices they give a good vape and they just do the job. I’d like more battery life and a bigger tank for the juice so I don’t feel the need to carry 2.

    They have both gone faulty, battery says charged but then when I use it the battery says flat… they haven’t had loads of use.

    I don’t care about making clouds, just want to vape and ejoy it and keep off the ciggies.

    I can’t tell what I would gain from more adjustable ones with their electronic displays and all that, the vape smoke well, not as nice as all drip tank but again I just can’t be arsed with that for the small improvement in flavour.

    I don’t want to be having to twist wires up and making my own coils, I don’t feel the need when that subvod smokes so well.

    What should I get for portable and decent vape from it?


    • Hey Richard,

      I hear you and you certainly don’t need to be building your own coils to get good results.

      Straight off what I will say is the maximum tank capacity available to buy in the UK is 2ml. You can thank government regulations for that!

      If I remember correctly, the Subvod mega comes with the Toptank Mini tank that is a 4ml capacity. Double what you can legally buy in the UK.

      So first up, if you are happy with the flavour you are getting from the tanks you already have then you can still use these, they hold more e-liquid than anything else in available in the UK. You will just have to buy a new battery.

      The benefit a variable wattage device will bring is giving you more control on the type of vape you want. The wattage basically = the amount of heat that is sent to the coil. You can also use different coil types in your tank and change the wattage accordingly.

      While not essential it’s a good feature to have and easy to use. Once you find the wattage that’s good for you then you just keep there, no more fiddling.

      One important thing you will need to keep in mind if you decide to keep using the Kanger tank you have is the coils you use. If you use the 0.15ohm Ni coil (this should be on the packaging or coil itself) then you will need a mod that has temperature control functionality. Without going into it too much, these coils use a material that should only be used in TC mode.

      So for recommendations. The mods above are good options depending on what you choose to do.

      Both the below have good battery life and can be used in temperature mode. The Zelos is the smaller of the two.
      Aspire Zelos modInnokin CoolFire 4 TC100

      If you know Richard, let me know what type of coils you currently use. ie: the resistance – Will have 0.5ohm or something on the coil/packaging.

      If you just want a completely new set up including tank, let me know and I’ll try and advise on a suitable tank, just keep in mind the capacity of the tank will be half what you have now.

      Also.. If you do want a new tank, let me know if you want a mouth to lung or direct to lung style tank.

      A lot of info I know but if you can let me know some more info on your preferences I can be more specific.



  34. Hi Ive been looking for a new mod and would like one that I can screw both sub ohm tanks and rdtas on 2 around 150 watts any suggestions

  35. Hi I’m relatively new to vaping (6 weeks) and I am using a Vaporesso Tarot Nano with a Veco tank. One problem I keep having is the EUC Clapton 0.4ohm coils. I have primed them and started low on the watts (15-20) but eventually they either taste burnt or the e-liquid (70vg/30pg) has almost zero flavour once I reach 35+ watts. I haven’t cranked it up past 45 watts and am unsure if I should? Also is Vaporesso a decent make as I was considering getting the Revenger Kit with the NRG tank or would you suggest going down another route. I mainly want decent flavour from my experience.

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • Hey Dunk,

      We haven’t actually used many Vaporesso products so can’t really comment on how the coils are life and flavour wise.

      They are a well known brand in the vaping world though.

      There are reasons why you could be experiencing some of things you are though.

      On the face of it, it does seem like you should be able to get more than 35W on the 0.4Ohm coil. It is rated, by Vaporesso, for use between 40-50W.

      However, coil ratings are just a guideline.

      I, for example, still use the Aspire Cleito tank on a regular basis. I use the 0.4 coils that are rated for use between 40-60W. I actually vape this between 30-35W.

      As, like you, I find for my tastes the flavour is better in that range.

      It can also come down to the flavours you are using. Some work better at higher wattages, some lower.

      If it’s just flavour suffering at 35W and it’s not coming through burnt then I would say try working your way upto 45W a couple of watts at a time and see how things go.

      Coils also have a limited life span.

      Again, this is effected massively by the type of juice. Sweeter e-liquids for instance will gunk up coils and result in shorter life.

      I guess I would suggest a couple of things before buying a new tank.

      Try the different coils that are available with the Veco tank. From a quick look there are a number of different ones available. You may just get on better with a different coil.

      And I guess if you are getting flavour below 35W and you are happy with it just carry on. No need to vape at the higher wattages the coil recommends.

      Last but not least. If you go for Revenger Kit, and you are buying just for the flavour, you can just buy the NRG tank on it’s own.

      Hope the above makes sense and let me know how you get on!



      • Thanks for getting back.
        I gave up on the clapton Traditional coil and moved on to the ceramic 0.5. Flavour is a huge difference but at the same time has a cool draw and misses that throat hit grrr. Now i read that the ceramic coil is a butty unhealthy due to shards of glass etc ……man can i ever win. Thanks about just getting the Tank ….I never even thought about doing it that way tbh. Its hard to get vaporesso coils full stop in the UK. I like these GT coils look…. a bit Ford Mustang lol. If i get will report back.

        Many thanks


        • Hey Dunk,

          Your getting closer it seems! Vaping can be case of trial and error sometimes but you’ll get there 🙂

          Let us know how you get on!



    • Hey Dunk,
      I can comment on your problem since I had the exact same one. Those Vaporesso Veco tanks are crap in my opinion. I’m mainly into flavour same as you. I switched to Smok TFV8 Baby Beast – the coil that comes pre-installed with that will knock your head off with flavor, guaranteed. I haven’t looked back. I have Vaporesso Tarot Nano, Nebula and Tarot Mini devices and each one I use with a Smok tank. Perfect!

  36. Hi I’m relatively new to vaping but already feel I need something more satisfying than my blu pro pen and halo tank kit. Looking for advice really on a box mod with easy/simple start but with capability to sub ohm/upgrade in time.

    I fancy the look of the Smok alien and the innokin cf4 but need help on choosing a tank. Flavour and hit are things I’m looking to improve as I’m getting little of either atm.

    Not interested in dripping or making own coils etc if you can recommend a set up for me I’d be grateful. But also would you be able to explain why you made each particular recommendation. Thanks in advance for your time. 👍🏼

    • Hi Mags,

      Both the mods you mention are great but both offer something different.

      The Cool Fire 4 for instance has a lower wattage output (40W still enough for most vapers) and an integrated battery.

      The SMOK Alien offers a huge 220W power output and is powered by two replaceable batteries. So you will have to buy batteries separately as well as an external charger for safe charging.

      If looking for an integrated battery mod, maybe to cover yourself for future sub ohm tank purchases the Innokin CoolFire 4 Plus or TC100 should also be considered. All good options though.

      As for tanks. The kits you are currently using are MTL (Mouth To Lung) tanks. Some good options here are the Jacvapour S22 tank (gives both MTL and DTL.)

      Tee other we would recommend is the Aspire Nautilus 2.

      If you upgrade to Direct to lung vaping (Sub Ohm) in time there are plenty of tank options, for our latest sub ohm tank recommendations have a look here.

      Just keep in mind that the lower resistance the coil the more wattage you will need. So 0.5Ohm will be just fine with CF4 at say 30-35W but the 0.16 Ohm coil with the Apsire Cleito EXO tank for example is recommended for use between 60-100W.

      I’ll leave it there as it can be a lot to take in! Any other questions please ask.



      • Thanks for such a quick and comprehensive response Jonny. I should have added it was the al85 mini I was considering. Doh!

        • haha.. I see, no problem! All these devices hey, not surprised a lot of people are stumped on where to start 🙂

          That’s a good starter point as well, again the external battery situation still applies although only one is needed with this device!

          Nice little mod though Maggs!

  37. hey,
    Need a recommendation here. Been vaping for about 3-4 months. Started from a vape pen then quickly upgraded to an istick power 80w + cleito 120. But i think i should upgrade (at least the mod). What would you recommend if mainly need flavor, i’m okay with clouds and not a huge cube. Most important thing would be the battery, i would love a long lasting battery. And maybe a short opinion on what i have?(I’ve read that the mod isn’t that good, and the cleito with the max 80w that the mod allows, drains the battery quite fast). A REULEAUX RX200S i think would be fine with the cleito 120 perhaps?

    • Hey Igor!

      Yeah the RX200S would be fine with the Cleito, just keep in mind that you will also need to buy 18650 batteries separately as (like your iSick Power mod) it doesn’t have an integrated battery. You will also need a good, external charger.

      The new iJoy Captain PD270 is a good option as well for battery life. In most places the batteries needed come with the mod in a kit.

      It’s important you learn about battery safety if going for external batteries.

      If you want to explore the higher wattage capabilities of the Cleito 120 then the above are both good options 🙂

  38. Hey there,
    I’m an amateur. I’m interested in flavour, bigger capacity tank and i guess i like making clouds(altho at any point i can say bye bye to them) and i would also like a long lasting battery. I know very little about vapes and all, but sometimes i do read a bit about them 🙂 so what would you recommend me? Help out a newbie here please 🙂 atm i have an istick power 80w + cleito 120, short opinion on that? (i’ve read that the mod isn’t that good, took it because of the 5k mah battery). it was an upgrade from a vape pen when i started vaping.
    TY and Peace!

  39. Dear Jonny,

    Can you advise me .. I’m looking to move from pen to tank because I struggling to get the flavour Vs throat hit combo right. I’m after something small and girly and I’m really not interested in making clouds. When ever I try any of my friends tanks the clouds just make me cough but I think that’s the lack of nicotine / that bit.
    I’m just after the nicotine and the flavour.
    I’ve looked at the Smok baby beast … so you think this or similar would be a good move?

  40. Go crazy and get a gx350 battery mod with the Ijoy cigpet eco 12 and chuck out monster clouds and don’t bothe looking back because all you will see is clouds!!

    • Hi Ryan,

      I think you’re the only one of these comments that’s actually knows what a good mod is haha. Got the GX350 about 2 moths ago after I had my sigelie 213, these two mods are possible the best mods I’ve had haha very expensive but still haha worth every penny. The only thing I would change abouts your set up mate is your tank, if you want a fat as fook cloud change to a limitless XL, 1-215 watt with your OHMs as low as 0.15 best thing to do if I was you tbh mate.

  41. Hi, i have the 70w kangertech mini top box, I’m not finding the coils very good so I want to use a different tank. What would you recommend?

    • Hi John,

      If you are looking for a tank that produces clouds then check out the TFV series from SMOK. The TFV8 and TFV12 are ones to check out.

      As for a mod, the likes of the SMOK Alien or Wismec Predator can comfortably handle the wattage some of the coils need (especially the TFV12).

      Any other questions please ask.



  42. Hey guys sorry to butt in your conversation but another great mod is the smok g-priv 220w touch screen mod kit with tfv8 big baby beast.

    I bout two rainbow kits one for keeping one for using and the kit is only 91 dollars there is nothing bad to say about the g-priv smoke makes amazing mods and tanks my go to brand.

  43. The Smoant Battlestar is catching on in the forums, as is the Hogmtech G2. Also, eLeaf has the new qc200 lipo mod.

    For an affordable choice, the Cuboid is very decent.

    Finding that big clunky old mods, like the Koopor Plus, aren’t much fun to use. Ipv 3 Li is better due to light weight, great battery life with the Yihi chip, and built like a tank.

    I don’t think mods with firing bars are quite there yet. My iStick 100 tc is not very responsive. Others can easily auto fire if not extra cautious.

  44. I’ve just bought a black Geekvape Medusa to go on a black and grey Alien but I’m looking for a nice, small discreet mod that will look and perform well with my Medusa on but I don’t want to go below about 80-100w. Any suggestions?

    • Hey Darran,

      We do have a list of mini box mods here but compact devices that will fire the wattage you want aren’t that common although a small number are starting to hit the shelves.

      The SMOK AL85 Baby Beast (85W), which is basically an Alien Mini mod. A review will be up in the next few days for that and they should be available anytime now.

      There is also the Eleaf Pico Dual, although a little chunkier but offers 200W.

      The Wismec RX Mini, although chunkier again and a little weighty.

      The SMOK Quantum mod offers 80W and while it is a similar height to the Alien it has a smaller form factor.

      Of course, most if not all of the above may cause the Medusa to overhang a touch. So just double check dimensions and make sure a 25mm RDTA will fit.

  45. Hi.. i have an istick 40w.. and got a new aspire cleito tank.. looking for a new battery to go along with it.. and keep my istick 40 watt as a back mod box.. what would you recommed.. cheers

    • Hey Declan,

      Although you will be able to use the iStick 40W (I vape the Cleito SS 0.4Ohm coil, at 30/35W most of the time) you will be best off with something with a little more power so you have a buffer of sorts. Will also be good if you decide to use the 0.2Ohm coils.

      There are two types of mod you may want to look at.

      First are box mods with integrated batteries.

      The Innokin Cool Fire 4 Plus and Coolfire 4 TC100 are solid performers.

      Second we have mods with replaceable batteries. Batteries are not included with these mods so need to be purchased separately. They also require a little extra learning with regards to battery safety and it’s recommended to buy an external charger.

      It will come down to personal preferences but the mod on the list above are all good choices.

      Eleaf Pico – Small and compact, requires 1 X 18650 battery
      Take a look at the Wismec RX 2/3. Works with 2 or 3 X 18650 batteries
      The SMOK Alien – overkill in power but a great vape mod. You don’t have to use the maximum wattage stated of course. This requires 2 X 18650 batteries
      If budget allows the Lost Vape Therion mods are also superb!

      Again loads of options I know but you won’t go far wrong with any of the mentioned. Hoperfully you will see one you like the look of.

      Any other questions please ask.

  46. I can recommend the istick 40w tc… Much more advanced than the OLD (NOW) 30watt version. .. some companies trying to clear old stock?

  47. Hi johnny,
    Wondering if you could help me choose a new mod box
    I use the aspire nautilus with istick 30 at 20w
    I want a new mod that takes battery’s so I can easily change them,but it’s not necessary
    What I’m looking for mostly is longer lasting between charges
    If I bought a higher watt mod ie:75+ does that mean on a lower setting it would last longer?
    And which mods would you recommend for me
    Thanks very much

    • Hi Shelley,

      A 75W mod doesn’t mean the lower setting will last longer. It all depends on the battery capacity of the particular mod. This is displayed as ‘mAh’. The higher the number the longer the device should last between charges.

      On the other hand, if a mod is capable of higher wattage’s, say 75W rather than 30W, it will usually have a higher ‘mah’ capacity battery.

      If you are going for replaceable batteries it’s recommended you also buy an external charger for safer charging.

      The benefit of course with the replaceable battery mods is that you can have several batteries that you can use in rotation.

      Again, please be sure you use safe practices with these batteries and if carrying spares you must buy a case to keep and carry them. 18650 battery cases are available on ebay for a couple of £.

      As for mods themselves.

      Integrated battery mods.

      Cool Fire 4 Plus – Has 3300mAh battery.
      Eleaf iPower – Has 5000mAh battery life.

      Replaceable 18650 Battery Mods

      Eleaf Pico – Compact device that requires 1 X 18650 battery. They also have a dual 18650 version.

      Jacvapour Series B – Requires 1 X 18650 battery.

      You can go for mods with 2X batteries. They will definitely be overkill in terms of the wattage they are capable of but they will of course offer even more battery life. Mods such as the SMOK Alien kit can offer this.

      Also keep in mind the Nautilus may look a little lost on the bigger devices. That’s of course if you are bothered about the aesthetics!

      I personally use Samsung 25R batteries, purchased from Ecolux store on eBay.

      Hope that helps a little. Any further questions let me know.



  48. I wouldn’t recommend SMOK Alien, It have a lot of problems with it, after 1 month of usage doesn’t been able to read the ohms properly, rebuildable decks from big baby beast 2 of them in short of wich one never used. Totally disappointed.

  49. Hi Jonny,

    Thanks for all the great input. I started with the eleaf istick tc60w with a Melo II tank. My local vape shop convinced me to upgrade to the istick TC100w and a cubis tank. I love the dual battery feature of the istick and the ease of changing coils in the cubis. If I was to upgrade from here, what would you recommend?


    • Hey Patrick,

      Thanks for the comment!

      It depends on what you are looking for in a vape really. The mod you have is a goodun and will run the majority of tank out there no problem. So unless you are looking to vape over 90-100W or fancy trying a tank such as the SMOK TFV8 then I would stick with the TC100.

      If you wanted the increased power then the likes of the Wismec RX 2/3 and SMOK Alien mod are great options.

      As for tanks.. Check out our recommended sub ohm tanks page here.

      I personally use the Aspire Cleito tank on a regular basis, great price and great performance. I always seem to end up with it on top of my mod. It also has an RBA option available should you ever fancy building your own coils in the future.

      The Apollo Phazer tank was recently reviewed by Neil and he absolutely loved it. So based on his review that’s definitely worth a look.

      And the SMOK TFV8 Baby Beast tank. As with a lot of the recent SMOK tank it offers superb performance all round.

      If you upgrade your mod for a higher wattage device then the SMOK TFV8 Cloud Beast is a serious performer with lots of different coil options to keep you busy.

      It isn’t for everyone though, you need to be prepared to go through a lot of e-liquid! It likes a drink. So maybe using it as an occasional tank may make more sense.

      Hope that helped some. Any other questions fire away.



  50. I moved from ego type sticks to an istick 30watt, and what a revolution that was, I now own 3 and have had them for about 15 months still using all 3 and not one fault in any of them, I have since bought a pico 75 watt and again faultless, I decided to try a cleito which leaks like a sunken battleship, and then an aspire Pegasus which goes into limp mode when battery is half full usually after half an hours use!! I am now considering the smok alien kit can you please advise as I don’t know what use I will get out of 220watts ?? I am looking for good flavour reliability decent battery life and reasonable coil life and cost what would be your top recommendations please? {80watts sub ohms and up to£60 please} many thanks Stewart

    • Hey Stewart,

      Apologies for the delayed reply.

      Shame about your leaking Cleito, I’ve been using mine daily for around a year with zero leaking. Out of interest, what PG/VG mix ejuice did you use with it?

      The Alien is a great mod, 220W is overkill for most no doubt but keep in mind that just because a mod is capable of these highs it doesn’t mean you have to use the full amount so to speak. Most vapers won’t. Keep in mind that the Alien requires you to buy 2 X 18650 batteries and an external charger as well.

      As for good tanks. The SMOK TFV8 is excellent for flavour. Although I wouldn’t personally use it as my all day tank as it does go through e-juice like nobodies business.

      I personally use it on occasion as an ‘evening use’ tank. The TFV8 Baby Beast is also very good but a touch easier on the juice.

      Other mods that are reliable:

      Innokin Cool Fire TC100 – Not the newest kid on the block but still does the trick upto 100W. Integrated battery.
      Eleaf iStick Pico 75W – Tiny mod but still packs all the features of bigger devices. Powered by 1 X 18650 battery (purchased separately).

      As for tanks, other than the TFV8’s mentioned above:

      Apollo Phazer Tank
      Aspire Atlantis EVO
      Innokin iSub G Tank

      I’d also urge you to retry the Cleito 🙂 There may have been an issue with the coil you had or some other easily rectified issue.

      Let me know if you have any questions.


  51. I think you have a good list there, i think the smok alien an box mod is one of the best out there at the moment, i use the cool fire 4 tc100, with an Atlantis 2 tank, i find it to be a winning combination, although the battery life could be slightly better.

    • My smok alien baby al85 latest me just under a month, I loved the performance of the tank, and taste was great but not only did the tank get stuck on my mod which made it tricky filling with juice, the screen on my mod just all of a sudden died… really disappointed :'( maybe next interview with smok u can ask if they can pay more attention to their threading, and find out why their mods don’t last ??

      Quitting smoking is amazing for me but hit so many issues and expense from crappy juice to faulty coils & mods… its def the healthier option but not the cheapest. Just over a mth of not smoking after 24years.
      Thanks Jonny.

  52. Hey jonny
    I use the snow wolf 200w limited edition gold with a gold tfv8 cloud beast, i found this mod is amazing aswell as stunning to look at as it turns heads i truely recommend this mod as it automatically selects your coil strength aswell it has the saftey feature if you forget to lock it and the button presses rather than the mod burning your coil to hell the device shuts down which i find amazing and truely a leading saftey mod

  53. Hi Jonny, Great Job!

    Kudos to you for offering the Vapors of the World a Great list of your opinions, I highly commend you for doing so, it is Very Helpful to those of us looking for Words of wisdom.

    That being said, I just had to comment on All of these Negative Nerds who get on here bashing your hard work and effort!

    If you guys don’t like Jonny’s Best list then, by all means, make an effort to write your own, but do the rest of us a favor and keep your nasty comments and opinions to yourselves.

    We came here to read Jonny’s opinion of the Best Mods of 2016 not Joe Bob Hill Billy’s!

    Anyway, keep up the good work and reviews! We love em and appreciate you!
    Vaping Saves Lives!

    • Thanks Suzie,

      Really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment! As you say this is just my opinion from what I’ve had my hands on. I still think these are all very good options in their various ‘classes’.

      I welcome all vapers out there though to leave a comment here and let me know their favourite vape mods! In fact I would love to hear them. Vaping isn’t the same for everyone, we all have different needs and wants.

      This is a kick start and for anyone looking and you won’t go far wrong with any on the list if you are a newer vaper looking for a solid starting point.

      To finish up…. It doesn’t matter what device you use, cig-a-like, vape pen, mod, whatever. The product that helps you switch from cigarettes is THE BEST product.



  54. I use the kbox 70w mod with subtank mini and run it around 40w on a .5ohm coil.

    I have others as well, the Eleaf Pico 75w with toptank mini running 40w on .5 ohm coil. Have the Eleaf iPower 80w with Subtank Mini running it at 40w with subtank mini, got a all black COV mini volt 40w mod with the toptank nano using 1.2 ohm coil.

    Have the white/black mini volt 40w mod using toptank mini with 1.2 ohm coil run the mini volts around 15w and get a full days use out of them on such a small battery then have the eleaf 50w mod with the nautilus tank on it with 1.8 ohm coil running it at 15w.

    Then have the all in one unit Kanger Cupti 75w mod built in tank with the ss .5 coil which is a great mod but the kbox 70w with the Subtank mini I use more. Its a nice feel in the hands comfortable to hold, I have the white one and the black subtank mini on it.

    Very nice setup in my opinion but I am wanting a bigger mod setup and a really good subohm tank to go with it as well. Not interested in building coils n wicking them as of yet dont see myself ever vaping in the 200w range maybe 100w or little more like 120w.

    So I’m considering buying a bigger box mod soon so am thinking the 160w range will be good for me and no need for more so which 160w mod is the best and what would be a good tank to go with it rather keep tank in the 22mm diameter as I don’t really like the bigger tanks that much either thanks.

    • Hey Jason!

      Sounds like you have a good amount of experience with a good range of mods!

      I know you said you want 160W but some of the better, high powered mods are at the 200W mark. This doesn’t mean of course you need to go to 200W!

      There are a few great mods available. Here is what I would recommend:

      Wismec RX 2/3 – 150W/200W – This can be used at either max wattage depending on your setup. 2 X 18650 batteries allows a max output of 150W while using the 3 X 18650 battery config allows upto 200W.

      SMOK Alien Mod – You can get the kit with the SMOK TFV8 Baby Beast. A great tank at around 100-120W depending on the coils used. There are also lots of coil options to keep things interesting.

      SMOK have released some great higher powered mods recently with the H-Priv also being very good.

      (If budget allows) I would highly recommend taking a look at a ‘DNA200 vape mod‘. The eVolv DNA chips used in these mods offer excellent performance and reliability. Not to mention many of the actual mods available look great as well.

      Lost Vape Therion – You can read our Therion review here. There has since been a 133W Therion mod released that is capable of running 100/120W. You can see the 133W mod here.

      Other DNA mods are:

      Lost Vape Triade. Another beautiful mod!

      See all our favourite DNA vape mods here.

      For tanks that perform well at higher temps the diameter tends to be over 22mm at 25mm. So you will be limited somewhat in choice.

      The SMOK TFV8 Baby Beast is 22mm diameter and a great little tank, capable of higher wattage’s dependent on coil.

      The Uwell Crown is 22mm Diameter and the .25 Ohm coil is rated upto 120W. We got good results at 100W.

      Anyone know of any 22m tanks which can handle 100W+?

      If you don’t mind a bigger tank then the following are recommended!

      Geekvape Eagle tank – This tank uses disposable build deck coils and offers a wide array of coil options. It is basically a rebuildable coil tank for vapers that don’t want to build their own coils.

      SMOK TFV8
      Aspire Cleito 120W

      Any question let me know!



    • Primus koopor 300w made smok with kanger subtank plus 7ml sitting happy on 85w with just under 0.5 clapton not rba. Sweet pair to be honest

  55. Hi I recently purchased a SMOK Alien with Baby tmv8 tank best thing I have ever done wow what a kit and good value. Replaceable 18650 batteries are the way to go and that tank gives a great flavour and clouds if you want them. I started vaping two years ago after smoking for 40 years plus and was recently using 40 watt mods and V-TUBE all were crap compared to the alien kit and sub ohm is the way to go wish I had started with this kit. xxxxxxx

  56. Jonny could you be so kind as to advise a mod thats small but wont look daft with a 25mm tank on it?
    Im thinking the releux 2/3 as i want more than one battery in there, i gave up looking for a side by side stealthy mod after deciding i need the 25mm tank with top airflow. Can’t remember the name off the top of my head but its leak proof and a must lol.
    Thanks! Great reviews and articles on here!


  57. there’s a mod now that vibrates and has a touch screen all i need now is one with a sim card holder and that’s one less thing in my pocket to worry about

  58. I have a sigelei 75w temp. Control mod and would like to know how to make the battery last longer?
    I Vape at about 40w&200c and the battery life is useless the battery is new as is the mod
    Thanks Dean?

  59. Hi jimmy,

    I have rda tornado 24mm,
    What the best mod for my rda?
    Because my mod paragon v2 not compatibke with tornado.
    Please give your advice.

  60. Hi Jonny
    I’m using an IPV3 and an IPV4
    With a crown atomiser at the minute. Both are good ( they are the only ones I’ve used )
    I’m looking for a mod and an atomiser that will give a good flavour and a good cloud. I use a 90/10 Vape juice with 3mg of nicotine. I Vape somewhere around 60-70 watts. The price is not an issue but I’d like a more sleek device, not as boxy as the IPV3. What would you suggest

    • Hey Paul,

      It’s a tough one on the mod front in terms of aesthetics as I think the IPV3 is one the least boxy mods for the size.

      I have been using the SMY SDNA75 a lot recently which I think is a great looking mod with a finish to match. Feels great in the hand to, solid without being bulky.

      As for tanks, I still use the Aspire Cleito as pretty much my go to tank. Flavour is great although the tank can get hot at higher temperatures. For the price though it’s hard to beat.

      The SMOK TFV8 and TFV8 Baby beast provide excellent flavour and clouds but drink juice like there is no tomorrow! Especially the big TFV8.

      Let me know what you think on the above and if the mod isn’t your thing I’ll try and help further.



  61. Hello Jonny,

    I was hoping you could help me. I’m relatively new to vaping and I’m transitioning from a pen vape to a box mod. I’d like something relatively simple that allows me to experiment with sub ohming. After doing extensive research, I decided on the Cool Fire IV Plus as it seemed to have great features at a reasonable price. However, I have found the device to big in my hand and would love to find something similar (ideally goes up to minimum of 50w), with all the same great features and in a similar price bracket, but that is smaller to fit in pretty small hands – is there anything you would recommend (I’ve read plenty of iLeaf reviews and am pretty put off if I’m honest).

    Thanks in advance!

    • Hi Vicky,

      Thanks for stopping by!
      It can take a short time to get used to the size of mods but the CF4+ is quite a chunky mod!
      There are a new breed of mini vape mods being released that are compact but offer sub ohm capability and higher wattage outputs. Only issue is the battery life though if you are going to be using exclusively for sub ohm vaping.
      With them being small they are limited to what they can accommodate
      Would you consider a mod that has a replaceable battery, Vicky?

      • Hi Jonny,

        Thanks for getting back to me, really appreciate it. And thanks for the link! Will take a look.

        Yes I guess I would – are there any major downfalls to having a replaceable battery? I’ve read you need to make sure you understand the safety of them etc. which I’m happy to do.

        Thanks again!


        • The safety needs to be understood, most issues today are with the way people carry them. For spares, you just need to make sure you buy a small case to carry them around so the battery doesn’t come into contact with any loose metal objects. They are only £1 or so on ebay.

          Also, an external charger is recommended. Xtar and Nitecore are two trusted brands.

          The good thing with eternal batteries is that when the battery begins to lose power or die then it’s only the battery that needs replacing and not the whole mod.

          I know you said you weren’t sure on Eleaf but the Pico Mod is great size, powered by a replaceable 18650 battery (I Use Samsung 25R). I have never had issues with this personally.

          Others to consider:
          Joyetech eVic Vtwo Mini (We are currently waiting for review to be complete on this)
          SMY DNA 75W – Although this can prove to be difficult to get hold of.
          Pioneer4You IPV D3
          Kanger Topbox Nano

          Have a look and double check the dimensions on these where you can Vicky.

  62. I’ve been using eh istick 30W and it has kept up with the itaste mvp 3.0, but the most interesting part is the istick lasted longer than the itaste so I’d have to say the istick 30w would be my favorite at the time of this writing. My wattage is set around 10 which works just fine for me. Jonny, you’ve done a great job in these reviews. Thank you!

  63. Coming soon me UD Balrog, opinions are contradictory, I really look forward to it, but I do not know what to expect.
    Thank you for article.

  64. I have 2 eleaf istick 30’s. Never had a problem with them and use them regularly. Overall they are an excellent mod.
    I now also have the cool fire 4 plus tc 18650. For some reason, I’m struggling to like it over the eleaf mods. Its slightly heavier which I find uncomfortable if carrying in the pocket. Whereas the eleafs are really light.
    The cool fire may grow on me, but at the moment its a mod for sitting around and using, not for carrying on your travels.

  65. tesla 2 is way to go……charge lasts days ,no external battery to mess with….100 watts…pavement proof haha. I’ve had mine over a year and i swear by it.

  66. Hi I’ve been vaping for about 2 years now and still find it all very confusing. I use the gs ego 11 2200mah 2015 with an aspire atomiser and 12mg strength eliquid. I was thinking of changing my battery as I’m finding I have to vape for 8 seconds to get a decent hit and it takes hours to charge it although it lasts for days. I quite like the look of the mini isticks as I definitely want something more discreet, I am a fairly regular vaper and would like my battery to last any help would be appreciated, I’m in the uk

    • Hi Sarah,
      The iStick range is a good choice. Is this the mini iStick you were referring to?
      They also have the 30W device which has longer battery life while still keeping compact form –
      I’m not sure what Aspire atomiser you have but I will presume it has an Ego threaded connection, to fit on your current battery.
      The iStick (and most other box mods) have a 510 thread where the atomizer attaches. If you look at the pictures compared to what you are using you should be able to see what I mean.
      Good news is that the iStick kits should all come with an adapter that allows you to use your Aspire tank. Just double check this though in the ‘In The Box’ contents on the sales pages. It should say eGo/510 adapter or something along those lines. If not you will be able to buy an adapter easily, they won’t be more than a few pounds.
      Let me know if you have more questions regarding this!

  67. Ok. There are few great mods on your list but when you set the title as ,,Best box mods and vape mods,, I would expect that in that article I will really find the Best Mods.. and not only the cheap good mods. Where is for instance Smok XCube, Wismec Reuleaux DNA 200 and mods like that?? When I am looking for the best mod I am not looking for some 20W mod for $30 otherwise I would search ,,best cheap 20W mods,, and not ,,Best mods,,..

    • Hey Dave,
      Thanks for the comment.
      All opinions are from what we have used, we don’t have any 20W mods on the list, although I think we see what you are saying. The 4 products in the 100W+ section will be added to when reviews of other products are complete. We have found expensive doesn’t always = best, however.
      I have heard good things about the Reuleaux DNA 200, we haven’t used it as of yet, hence the reason it isn’t on the list. Although we will have the RX200S in for review soon.
      The XCube II, we have used and while it’s a good mod, it didn’t make the list. It’s only our opinion though.
      We are currently using the H Priv 220W mod from SMOK, this is looking a lot better all around so if all goes well this will make it onto the list for sure.

    • I agree these were good in the begining but now NO WAY.. I use the IPV6 and TFV8 TANK awesome set up. I don’t just review them I sell them, repair them too!!!

      • Love the TFV8 although I only use it on occasion due to the amount of juice it goes through! Not tried the IPV6 yet, will have to get my hands on one!

  68. First of i respect your views and opinions. Secondly, why? Why did you choose these for a 2016 best of list? I see no reasoning for most of these as you left out the better ones, lol! You have 2 or 3 that are worthy like the YiHi SX, Sigelei Fuchai, Innokin Coolfire IV, but the others? Seriously, can i chime in here? Although the iStick 30W still gets attention one has to note the iStick 60WTC, 100WTC, and the 100W. You decided to take the low end 30W iStick over the 100WTC which is averaged at the same price? Where is the reasoning at?? So, you would tell someone to buy a mere 30W device only for them to spend yet more money for a higher wattage device when you should just tell them it is smarter for about the same price to just get a 100WTC iStick? Now, let us talk about the other mods that you chose to excuse out over the ones that you have chosen, shall we? Smok X Cube II, X Cube mini, Wismec Reuleaux RX200 and DNA200, Koopor Plus 200WTC, eVic-VT, eVic VTC mini, and the Joyetech Cuboid just to name a few. Seems as though you believe joyetech makes poor quality products but the masses say otherwise. Maybe you should do a better “Best of 2016” article. Again, i respect your opinions but one has to wonder if you were paid to “endorse” these companies as you have well overlooked the mods that i have mentioned.

    • Hey Nick,
      Thanks for your comment.
      I agree there are some great mods that are not on this list but I also think the mods that are included are also great options, in my opinion, which of course is all this list is.
      The iStick 30W is included in the 20-40W category and is certainly not preferred over the 100WTC istick.
      I still think in this ‘Sub 40W category’ still has a lot to offer, especially for new vapers or those stepping up from eGo/Vape pen devices. The 100WTC iStick I have only just had my hands on and I have to agree it’s superb and definitely deserves a mention in the 80W+ category.
      Would I recommend the 100W device over the 30/40W mod to all vapers? No, definitely not. It all depends on the individual vaper. Which is why this list is split into different power output categories.
      Keep in mind not all vapers (myself included) need 100W of power and many don’t want the extra step of buying replaceable batteries and the further step needed to pick the right batteries and learn about cell safety.
      If you are building your own coils or have your heart set on something like the SMOK TFV4 tank then definitely, a higher wattage would be needed for sure.
      The iStick 30W/40W devices are small, portable vape devices with minimum learning curve required and are perfect for vapers still using the likes of the Aspire Nautilus or the more recent Apsire Triton Mini.
      I speak to a lot of vapers who aren’t interested in sub ohm vaping at this moment in their vaping journey, some may never want to go down that route for various reasons. If they are though a 40W device can more than handle a 0.5 Ohm coil.
      Your other options are all valid for sure, as are probably another 10 options that also aren’t mentioned and another 10 that have been released over the last month. I could definitely do a top 40 but this likely wouldn’t help much 🙂
      Since last updating the list there have been numerous releases though and I agree there are some other areas need updating which I will be doing shortly after I have tested some more mods that I have in hand.
      Thanks again Nick!

  69. I have the Sigelei Fuchai 200W, and I have to say, it as one of the best boxes I have had yet. The way it fits my hand, and the optional TC options make this a must have and if I had the money, I would buy another one right now. My only complaint would be the silicone sleeve, because sometimes it messes with the firing button when I push it it doesnt register that I pushed it because the thickness of the sleeve gets in the way. But that is really just nit-picking 🙂

  70. I’ve used the eleaf and kangertech range, but the snow wolf Asmodus), in all of its iterations is the best of the bunch. Superior fit and finish to the IPV, bullet proof and simple to use. Consistently overlooked, definitely worth considering.

  71. I use the eleafe istick 30W and i have to say i have no end of issue with it (infact looking for a solution to the latest issue is what brought me to this review. After some research i have found that i am not alone. It faults at the drop of hat.

  72. Stopped reading the post when I saw the istick 30W as one of the best mods of 2016.
    Makes zero sense when the 40w and 50w versions are similar priced.

    • I see what you are saying but we do have the 40W and 50W in there as well.

      The 30W is still a popular device at a slightly cheaper price which is why that’s also included.

      Thanks for the comment!


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